Lord Capulet uses a strange personification of death when he declares, “Hath death lain with thy wife...Death is my son-in-law; death is my heir. / My daughter he hath wedded. I will die / And leave him all. Life, living, all is death’s.” (IV.v. 42-46) Funny how you could technically swap “Death” with Romeo, who truly did marry Juliet. I wonder, did Shakespeare do this on purpose? After all, if Lord Capulet would have disowned Juliet if she had refused to marry Paris, wouldn’t he rather be dead (and have Juliet be dead) than have Romeo as a son-in-law? Also, this emotional burst is expected from Lord Capulet, since his daughter is “dead” right before her wedding day, but he doesn’t seem to reflect on all the terrible things that he said to Juliet soon before her “death”.
Paris says, "Beguiled, divorced, wronged, spited, slain!" (IV.v.61). I think this is an example of dramatic irony because all of these things (being beguiled, divorced, wronged etc.) are all happening to Paris, and not Juliet. He's feeling bad for her, when it was reallyhim who was wronged.
Like scene four (Capulet preparing for her wedding), I think that the audience could take Paris’ reaction to the the dramatic irony of Juliets “death” either as comedy or sadness. Although at a first glance it seems funny that he is sad over a fake death, it is very sad in reality that he doesn’t know what is going on, and thinks her death is actually a tragedy. It is good for Juliet and Romeo, but devastating for Paris.
All of the characters react differently to Juliet’s “death”. The Nurse, the first to see is panicked and calls for Lord and Lady Capulet. Lady Capulet has a rare maternal moment where she laments over the loss of her daughter while Lord Capulet mourns the loss of the marriage to Paris more than Juliet. When Paris learns of Juliet’s “death” he reacts in rage, this is shown in line 61 when he says “Beguiled,, divorced, wronged, spited, slain!” His exclamation shows his distress over his loss as himself being the victim as he is now “divorced”.
IV v The pacing of scene five seems very fast to me, all of the characters express their grief very quickly and suddenly then seem to move on with other preparations. I also find it interesting how each of them reacts. The nurse seems genuinely sad (54-59). Lord Capulet seems more angered that she’s dead (40-45 64-69). And Lady Capulet seems sad, but is more dramatic about it, almost like she doesn’t care that her daughter is dead but that she can’t marry her off (48-53). I think this says a lot about each persons character, and how they’ll react to Juliet being actually dead in the end.
It seems quite ironic how in IV.v.23-25 where Lady Capulet says that she would die with Juliet if she didn’t wake up because it’s eerily similar to earlier with Romeo and Juliet where they would die for each other. I think it’s because each of them thinks of these people at their only joy in life, and would do anything to stay with them. It demonstrates how desperate love can be and how far characters would be willing to go for another.
“All things that we ordained festival Turn from their office to black funeral. Our instruments to melancholy bells, Our wedding cheer to a sad burial feast. Our solemn hymns to sullen dirges change, Our bridal flowers serve for a buried corse,” Capulet, IV.v.85-90
Lord Capulet is talking about taking everything that they had prepared for the joyous wedding and using it for Juliet’s “funeral”. I think that this is important because it parallels the play’s switch from comedy to tragedy.
What is the point of having musicians talk about silver. I also don’t know if this is supposed to be funny. Why would Peter try to make the musicians sing sad songs, and then question their lyrics? This part was confusing to me.
Same here. But maybe Shakespeare have a deeper meaning like comparing silver to something else or foreshadow something. But I personally think this part is extra.
It seems that Nurse has a very strong reaction to Juliet's death, and her use of repetition intensifies the feeling. For example,she says,"O woe,O woeful, woeful,woeful day..."(4.5.55-60). This repetition shows her loss of emotional control, again displaying her intense motherly love toward Juliet.
It seems that Lord Capulet is more upset about the wedding being cancelled than his daughter's death; "Uncomfortable time, why cam'st thou now / To murder, murder our solemnity?"(IV.v.66-67). Lord Capulet is very sad because now there can't be a wedding since Juliet is dead. This shows that Lord Capulet cares more about enjoying himself at a wedding and marrying his daughter off than his daughter's well-being. This highlights that Lord Capulet may be unfit to be a parent.
I am confused on the part where the musicians and Peter are talking about silver and arguing over song lyrics. I don’t really understand the meaning behind it(if there is one) and the purpose of putting it in.
It is interesting to me how Lord and Lady Capulet were so ready to cast Juliet away if she refused marriage to Paris, but are now back to loving Juliet as if she is the only thing in their lives that matters. This shows how perhaps they didn’t realize how important she was to them until they thought they lost her. Also, are none of them questioning how Juliet seemingly randomly died overnight?
When Friar Lawrence is making his little speech to the Capulets after they find out Juliet is dead, he almost sounds like he is putting some of the blame on Lord Capulet and telling them that she is going to have a better life in heaven, which will upset the lord...Maybe I’m wrong but I thought this was interesting.
In lines 33-34, the love that Capulet has for his daughter becomes apparent. The tragedy can be seen here as well. Capulet in prior scenes has seemed like he wanted to just marry Juliet off to Paris, and that they would strengthen the family. He now shows that he cared for her so deeply, comparing her to “the sweetest flower of all the field”.
Within lines 85-90 we see the use of irony to demonstrate the amount of tradgey within the hearts of the characters. They walked in awaiting a day of joy but it became th opposite!
Lord Capulet uses a strange personification of death when he declares, “Hath death lain with thy wife...Death is my son-in-law; death is my heir. / My daughter he hath wedded. I will die / And leave him all. Life, living, all is death’s.” (IV.v. 42-46) Funny how you could technically swap “Death” with Romeo, who truly did marry Juliet. I wonder, did Shakespeare do this on purpose? After all, if Lord Capulet would have disowned Juliet if she had refused to marry Paris, wouldn’t he rather be dead (and have Juliet be dead) than have Romeo as a son-in-law? Also, this emotional burst is expected from Lord Capulet, since his daughter is “dead” right before her wedding day, but he doesn’t seem to reflect on all the terrible things that he said to Juliet soon before her “death”.
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Paris says, "Beguiled, divorced, wronged, spited, slain!" (IV.v.61). I think this is an example of dramatic irony because all of these things (being beguiled, divorced, wronged etc.) are all happening to Paris, and not Juliet. He's feeling bad for her, when it was reallyhim who was wronged.
ReplyDeleteLike scene four (Capulet preparing for her wedding), I think that the audience could take Paris’ reaction to the the dramatic irony of Juliets “death” either as comedy or sadness. Although at a first glance it seems funny that he is sad over a fake death, it is very sad in reality that he doesn’t know what is going on, and thinks her death is actually a tragedy. It is good for Juliet and Romeo, but devastating for Paris.
ReplyDeleteAll of the characters react differently to Juliet’s “death”. The Nurse, the first to see is panicked and calls for Lord and Lady Capulet. Lady Capulet has a rare maternal moment where she laments over the loss of her daughter while Lord Capulet mourns the loss of the marriage to Paris more than Juliet. When Paris learns of Juliet’s “death” he reacts in rage, this is shown in line 61 when he says “Beguiled,, divorced, wronged, spited, slain!” His exclamation shows his distress over his loss as himself being the victim as he is now “divorced”.
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ReplyDeleteThe pacing of scene five seems very fast to me, all of the characters express their grief very quickly and suddenly then seem to move on with other preparations. I also find it interesting how each of them reacts. The nurse seems genuinely sad (54-59). Lord Capulet seems more angered that she’s dead (40-45 64-69). And Lady Capulet seems sad, but is more dramatic about it, almost like she doesn’t care that her daughter is dead but that she can’t marry her off (48-53). I think this says a lot about each persons character, and how they’ll react to Juliet being actually dead in the end.
It seems quite ironic how in IV.v.23-25 where Lady Capulet says that she would die with Juliet if she didn’t wake up because it’s eerily similar to earlier with Romeo and Juliet where they would die for each other. I think it’s because each of them thinks of these people at their only joy in life, and would do anything to stay with them. It demonstrates how desperate love can be and how far characters would be willing to go for another.
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Our instruments to melancholy bells,
Our wedding cheer to a sad burial feast.
Our solemn hymns to sullen dirges change,
Our bridal flowers serve for a buried corse,”
Capulet, IV.v.85-90
Lord Capulet is talking about taking everything that they had prepared for the joyous wedding and using it for Juliet’s “funeral”. I think that this is important because it parallels the play’s switch from comedy to tragedy.
What is the point of having musicians talk about silver. I also don’t know if this is supposed to be funny. Why would Peter try to make the musicians sing sad songs, and then question their lyrics? This part was confusing to me.
ReplyDeleteSame here. But maybe Shakespeare have a deeper meaning like comparing silver to something else or foreshadow something. But I personally think this part is extra.
DeleteIt seems that Nurse has a very strong reaction to Juliet's death, and her use of repetition intensifies the feeling. For example,she says,"O woe,O woeful, woeful,woeful day..."(4.5.55-60). This repetition shows her loss of emotional control, again displaying her intense motherly love toward Juliet.
ReplyDeleteIt seems that Lord Capulet is more upset about the wedding being cancelled than his daughter's death; "Uncomfortable time, why cam'st thou now / To murder, murder our solemnity?"(IV.v.66-67). Lord Capulet is very sad because now there can't be a wedding since Juliet is dead. This shows that Lord Capulet cares more about enjoying himself at a wedding and marrying his daughter off than his daughter's well-being. This highlights that Lord Capulet may be unfit to be a parent.
ReplyDeleteI am confused on the part where the musicians and Peter are talking about silver and arguing over song lyrics. I don’t really understand the meaning behind it(if there is one) and the purpose of putting it in.
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting to me how Lord and Lady Capulet were so ready to cast Juliet away if she refused marriage to Paris, but are now back to loving Juliet as if she is the only thing in their lives that matters. This shows how perhaps they didn’t realize how important she was to them until they thought they lost her. Also, are none of them questioning how Juliet seemingly randomly died overnight?
ReplyDeleteWhen Friar Lawrence is making his little speech to the Capulets after they find out Juliet is dead, he almost sounds like he is putting some of the blame on Lord Capulet and telling them that she is going to have a better life in heaven, which will upset the lord...Maybe I’m wrong but I thought this was interesting.
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ReplyDeleteIn lines 33-34, the love that Capulet has for his daughter becomes apparent. The tragedy can be seen here as well. Capulet in prior scenes has seemed like he wanted to just marry Juliet off to Paris, and that they would strengthen the family. He now shows that he cared for her so deeply, comparing her to “the sweetest flower of all the field”.
ReplyDeleteWithin lines 85-90 we see the use of irony to demonstrate the amount of tradgey within the hearts of the characters. They walked in awaiting a day of joy but it became th opposite!
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